New quest decks

[Chris H.]

Seeing as we now have a Snow White deck I felt that I might be able to tune up Sloth's deck and make it one of the seven Dwarves.

I reduced the number of colors to black and red and tried to keep some of the theme.

Grumpy 1 rev 1 | Open

[duel]
[metadata]
Name=Grumpy 1
Title=Grumpy
Difficulty=easy
Description=BR Snow deck with Rimescale Dragon, Karplusan Giant, Skred and Chill to the Bone
Icon=Grumpy.jpg
Deck Type=Constructed
[main]
2 Chill to the Bone|CSP
2 Chilling Shade|CSP
1 Conquer|ICE
1 Deathmark|CSP
1 Drift of the Dead|ICE
1 Errantry|ICE
1 Gangrenous Zombies|ICE
1 Glacial Crevasses|ICE
2 Goblin Rimerunner|CSP
2 Goblin Ski Patrol|ICE
1 Grim Harvest|CSP
1 Gutless Ghoul|CSP
1 Karplusan Giant|ICE
2 Karplusan Wolverine|CSP
2 Ohran Yeti|CSP
2 Phyrexian Ironfoot|CSP
2 Phyrexian Snowcrusher|CSP
2 Rimebound Dead|CSP
1 Rimescale Dragon|CSP
1 Shield of the Ages|ICE
4 Skred|CSP
1 Snow Fortress|ICE
10 Snow-Covered Mountain|ICE
10 Snow-Covered Swamp|ICE
4 Tresserhorn Sinks|CSP
2 Zombie Musher|CSP
[sideboard]

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[moomarc]

There should be avatars for Owlman, Raven and Ras Al Ghul in the collection of Corwin here: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4458#p57949

I have an archive with four missing avatars for Marc to add to the project.

Joker.jpg
Owlman.jpg
Raven.jpg
Ras AL Ghul.jpg

I've uploaded those four (and Grumpy) and added them to the download links.

I also decided to just upload the rest of Corwins avatars so if you want to use any of them just add the download link to quest-opponent-icons.txt (just copy/paste any of the links and change the filename to match Corwin's and using %20 for spaces). Green Lantern and Sabertooth already had different images so I uploaded them as Green%20Lantern2.jpg and Sabertooth2.jpg respectively if you maybe want to use them for different tier decks.

[Sloth]

Here is a forgotten deck by Corwin:

Here is an early version of the Threshold deck.
I think that it is an easier medium.

| Open

[metadata]
Name=Threshold 2
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
4 Nimble Mongoose|ODY
4 Millikin|ODY
4 Evolving Wilds|ROE
4 Crashing Centaur|ODY
4 Werebear|ODY
4 Far Wanderings|TOR
4 Terramorphic Expanse|M11
4 Centaur Chieftain|TOR
4 Springing Tiger|ODY
4 Wildsize|GPT
12 Forest|MBS
4 Seton's Scout|TOR
4 Verdant Catacombs|ZEN
[sideboard]

Oreius
from Chronicles of Narnia

Now that we have Mulch and Tracker's Instincts, i think a threshold deck is possible now:

| Open

[duel]
[metadata]
Name=Oreius 2
Title=Oreius
Difficulty=medium
Description=GU Threshold deck
Icon=Oreius.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
8 Forest|ODY
2 Hinterland Harbor
1 Island|ODY
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Evolving Wilds|ROE
4 Terramorphic Expanse|M11
4 Nimble Mongoose|ODY
1 Wreath of Geists
1 Millikin|ODY
4 Mulch
1 Seton's Scout
4 Tracker's Instincts
4 Werebear|ODY
2 Anurid Barkripper
2 Krosan Avenger
2 Far Wanderings|TOR
2 Centaur Chieftain|TOR
2 Krosan Beast
1 Otarian Juggernaut
2 Springing Tiger|ODY
3 Grizzly Fate
1 Metamorphic Wurm
1 Stone-Tongue Basilisk
[sideboard]

Comments?

[Chris H.]

Here is a forgotten deck by Corwin:

Here is an early version of the Threshold deck.
I think that it is an easier medium.

| Open

[metadata]
Name=Threshold 2
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
4 Nimble Mongoose|ODY
4 Millikin|ODY
4 Evolving Wilds|ROE
4 Crashing Centaur|ODY
4 Werebear|ODY
4 Far Wanderings|TOR
4 Terramorphic Expanse|M11
4 Centaur Chieftain|TOR
4 Springing Tiger|ODY
4 Wildsize|GPT
12 Forest|MBS
4 Seton's Scout|TOR
4 Verdant Catacombs|ZEN
[sideboard]

Oreius
from Chronicles of Narnia

Now that we have Mulch and Tracker's Instincts, i think a threshold deck is possible now:

| Open

[duel]
[metadata]
Name=Oreius 2
Title=Oreius
Difficulty=medium
Description=GU Threshold deck
Icon=Oreius.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
8 Forest|ODY
2 Hinterland Harbor
1 Island|ODY
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Evolving Wilds|ROE
4 Terramorphic Expanse|M11
4 Nimble Mongoose|ODY
1 Wreath of Geists
1 Millikin|ODY
4 Mulch
1 Seton's Scout
4 Tracker's Instincts
4 Werebear|ODY
2 Anurid Barkripper
2 Krosan Avenger
2 Far Wanderings|TOR
2 Centaur Chieftain|TOR
2 Krosan Beast
1 Otarian Juggernaut
2 Springing Tiger|ODY
3 Grizzly Fate
1 Metamorphic Wurm
1 Stone-Tongue Basilisk
[sideboard]

Comments?

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I play tested the deck for a few matches. I enjoyed the deck and the AI handled it fairly well. Good job.

[timmermac]

Here is possibly the best of my evil creations. It's not quite as everything-but-the-kitchen-sink as most of my other creations at about 70 cards, but it does get really nasty, and it has no AI-has-an-issue warnings. It's a black discard deck, with a some multi-lands added in to allow for Doomsday Specter, Blazing Specter and Sedraxis Specter. I've named it En Sabah Nur, since that was one of the avatars available in Corwin's pack. I made it available in all three difficulties, but it's the same deck in all three.

En Sabah Nur | Open

[duel]
[metadata]
Name=En Sabah Nur 1
Title=En Sabah Nur
Difficulty=easy
Description=Discard deck with Specters and Megrim
Icon=En Sabah Nur.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
4 Megrim
4 Underground Sea
4 Watery Grave
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Coat of Arms
4 Crumbling Necropolis
4 Blazing Specter
4 Guul Draz Specter
4 Hypnotic Specter
4 Badlands
4 Cunning Lethemancer
4 Blood Crypt
4 Sedraxis Specter
4 Liliana Vess
4 Coercion
4 Bad Moon
4 Doomsday Specter
4 Abyssal Specter

[Sloth]

Here is possibly the best of my evil creations. It's not quite as everything-but-the-kitchen-sink as most of my other creations at about 70 cards, but it does get really nasty, and it has no AI-has-an-issue warnings. It's a black discard deck, with a some multi-lands added in to allow for Doomsday Specter, Blazing Specter and Sedraxis Specter. I've named it En Sabah Nur, since that was one of the avatars available in Corwin's pack. I made it available in all three difficulties, but it's the same deck in all three.

En Sabah Nur | Open

[duel]
[metadata]
Name=En Sabah Nur 1
Title=En Sabah Nur
Difficulty=easy
Description=Discard deck with Specters and Megrim
Icon=En Sabah Nur.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
4 Megrim
4 Underground Sea
4 Watery Grave
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Coat of Arms
4 Crumbling Necropolis
4 Blazing Specter
4 Guul Draz Specter
4 Hypnotic Specter
4 Badlands
4 Cunning Lethemancer
4 Blood Crypt
4 Sedraxis Specter
4 Liliana Vess
4 Coercion
4 Bad Moon
4 Doomsday Specter
4 Abyssal Specter

A Specter deck has to be build carefully. Too much discard will be redundant, because once the opponent has no cards in hand he will just draw and immediately play everything during his turn. This makes Megrim, Hymn to Tourach and Coercion dead cards and the rest of the bunch rather mediocre.

To prevent your specters from hitting nothing, you can use land destruction (Sinkhole) and bounce (Vapor Snag). To make room Megrim, Hymn to Tourach, Coercion, Cunning Lethemancer and Liliana Vess have to go.

Doomsday Specter is not very powerful here, since the opponents hand will be stripped anyway.

I would also greatly reduce the number of copies of Coat of Arms and Bad Moon (or cut them entirely).

And the AI is not very good with Blood Crypt and Watery Grave.

[Hellfish]

Specter deck

Wouldn't The Spectre be a more fitting avatar?

[lazylockie]

anyone thought about UW Delver Tempo? The deck itself doesn't have anything tricky save for Snapcaster Mage, so I think it could be as hard as Acquaman's CawBlade, depending on the spells. It's basically a ME-BIG-ME-SMASH for blue, any creature that is equipped will beat very hard.

UW Delver Hard | Open

4 Glacial Fortress
9 Island
3 Moorland Haunt
1 Plains
4 Tundra
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Geist of Saint Traft
4 Invisible Stalker
2 Condemn
4 Counterspell
4 Force Spike
3 Runechanter's Pike
2 Sword of War and Peace
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
2 Personal Tutor
4 Vapor Snag
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall

[Sloth]

anyone thought about UW Delver Tempo? The deck itself doesn't have anything tricky save for Snapcaster Mage, so I think it could be as hard as Acquaman's CawBlade, depending on the spells. It's basically a ME-BIG-ME-SMASH for blue, any creature that is equipped will beat very hard.

UW Delver Hard | Open

4 Glacial Fortress
9 Island
3 Moorland Haunt
1 Plains
4 Tundra
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Geist of Saint Traft
4 Invisible Stalker
2 Condemn
4 Counterspell
4 Force Spike
3 Runechanter's Pike
2 Sword of War and Peace
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
2 Thought Scour
4 Vapor Snag
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall

Looks good lazylockie. The only card i don't see a reason for is Thought Scour. A nice addition would be Personal Tutor - it will always put Time Walk on the top of the library (which triggers the Delvers in addition to being broken anyway).

[Sloth]

Here is a possible version for the Specter deck:

The Spectre | Open

[duel]
[metadata]
Name=The Spectre 3
Title=The Spectre
Difficulty=hard
Description=UBR Specter deck
Icon=The Spectre.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
8 Swamp
4 Crumbling Necropolis
4 Underground Sea
1 Badlands
2 Polluted Delta
2 Bloodstained Mire
3 Scalding Tarn
1 Silent Departure
4 Sinkhole
1 Riftwing Cloudskate
1 Disperse
1 Echoing Truth
1 Into the Roil
4 Hypnotic Specter
1 Liliana's Specter
1 Needle Specter
4 Sedraxis Specter
3 Silent Specter
1 Man-o'-War
1 Repulse
1 Abyssal Specter
4 Blazing Specter
4 Guul Draz Specter
1 Shimian Specter
1 Churning Eddy
1 Coat of Arms
1 Shrieking Specter
[sideboard]

Concerning the Delver deck:
I think one Personal Tutor is enough (otherwise they can become dead cards). If one gets switched for a one mana sorcery this will happen seldomly. What about Sunlance?

And what avatar do you want lazylockie?

[lazylockie]

Easy and Hard are the easiest to design, but how do we find the middle point on Medium?

I think the avatar fits the theme, Delver of Secrets / Insectile Aberration <-> Green Hornet

Easy has both Jaces, but they're just draw engines and AI doesn't really know how to protect them, so it shouldn't be that hard even on early stages.

UW Delver Easy | Open

4 Glacial Fortress
10 Island
2 Moorland Haunt
3 Plains
4 Sejiri Refuge
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Cloud Sprite
4 AEther Figment
3 Puncturing Light
4 Divination
2 Runeboggle
2 Frightful Delusion
2 Runechanter's Pike
2 Bonesplitter
3 Sunlance
4 Vapor Snag
1 Jace, Memory Adept
1 Jace Beleren

UW Delver Hard | Open

4 Glacial Fortress
9 Island
3 Moorland Haunt
1 Plains
4 Tundra
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Geist of Saint Traft
4 Invisible Stalker
2 Condemn
4 Counterspell
4 Force Spike
3 Runechanter's Pike
2 Sword of War and Peace
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Personal Tutor
1 Sunlance
4 Vapor Snag
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall

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[Sloth]

Easy and Hard are the easiest to design, but how do we find the middle point on Medium?

I think the avatar fits the theme, Delver of Secrets / Insectile Aberration <-> Green Hornet

Easy has both Jaces, but they're just draw engines and AI doesn't really know how to protect them, so it shouldn't be that hard even on early stages.

UW Delver Easy | Open

4 Glacial Fortress
10 Island
2 Moorland Haunt
3 Plains
4 Sejiri Refuge
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Cloud Sprite
4 AEther Figment
3 Puncturing Light
4 Divination
2 Runeboggle
2 Frightful Delusion
2 Runechanter's Pike
2 Bonesplitter
3 Sunlance
4 Vapor Snag
1 Jace, Memory Adept
1 Jace Beleren

UW Delver Hard | Open

4 Glacial Fortress
9 Island
3 Moorland Haunt
1 Plains
4 Tundra
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Geist of Saint Traft
4 Invisible Stalker
2 Condemn
4 Counterspell
4 Force Spike
3 Runechanter's Pike
2 Sword of War and Peace
2 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Personal Tutor
1 Sunlance
4 Vapor Snag
1 Time Walk
1 Ancestral Recall

green-hornet.jpg

I think your easy deck should be medium (AEther Figment + Bonesplitter alone can frustrate a player new to magic). I will add them as Green Hornet 2 and Green Hornet 3.
If you want to change anything later - no problem. Thanks lazylockie.

[Sloth]

Here is a deck based on Academy Researchers and Auratouched Mage:

Edna Krabappel 3 | Open

[duel]
[metadata]
Name=Edna Krabappel 3
Title=Edna Krabappel
Difficulty=hard
Description=WU deck with Academy Researchers and Auratouched Mage
Icon=Edna Krabappel.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
4 Tundra
4 Sejiri Refuge
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Island|RAV
3 Plains|RAV
3 Flooded Strand
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Pearl
1 Ancestral Recall
2 Spell Snare
1 Essence Scatter
1 False Summoning
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Journey to Nowhere
4 Academy Researchers
4 Auratouched Mage
2 Sovereigns of Lost Alara
1 Iridescent Drake
4 Angelic Destiny
1 Celestial Mantle
1 Drake Umbra
2 Elder Mastery
4 Eldrazi Conscription
1 Followed Footsteps
1 Mammoth Umbra
2 Mythic Proportions
[sideboard]

[moomarc]

If anyone knows of any broken image downloads or quest icons not downloading, please let me know so that I can get them all up to date before the beta release.

I've added the following quest opponent icons as per the decks posted above:
* Edna Krabappel.jpg
* El Sabah Nur.jpg
* Green Hornet.jpg
* Oreius.jpg (image name was originally Centaur01.jpg. Advise if I should change it back)
* The Spectre.jpg

If there's any I've missed let me know (sorry about the post her and in Dev's Corner, but I want to make sure my side of the maintenance is up to date for the beta. )

[Chris H.]

If anyone knows of any broken image downloads or quest icons not downloading, please let me know so that I can get them all up to date before the beta release.

I've added the following quest opponent icons as per the decks posted above:
* Edna Krabappel.jpg
* El Sabah Nur.jpg
* Green Hornet.jpg
* Oreius.jpg (image name was originally Centaur01.jpg. Advise if I should change it back)
* The Spectre.jpg

If there's any I've missed let me know (sorry about the post her and in Dev's Corner, but I want to make sure my side of the maintenance is up to date for the beta. )

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The three Oreius decks have the line:

Icon=Oreius.jpg

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Oh, Sloth added a special quest opponent deck:

quest 27 The Torpor Orb.

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This deck has the line:

Icon=Repressed Magic.jpg

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I spent some time looking for a good pic on google but have not had any luck so far.

And thank you for your help and assistance.