New quest decks
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 12 Feb 2012, 16:37
Here is a deck based on Curse auras:
- Ras Al Ghul 2 | Open
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[metadata]
Name=Ras Al Ghul 2
Title=Ras Al Ghul
Difficulty=hard
Description=BR Curse deck
Icon=Ras Al Ghul.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
10 Swamp|ISD
3 Mountain|ISD
2 Akoum Refuge
2 Blackcleave Cliffs
2 Dragonskull Summit
2 Bloodstained Mire
1 Tainted Peak
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Bloodstone Cameo
4 Curse of Thirst
3 Curse of Misfortunes
4 Curse of Bloodletting
4 Curse of Death's Hold
4 Curse of the Pierced Heart
1 Curse of Oblivion
1 Curse of the Nightly Hunt
3 Bitterheart Witch
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Ogre Sentry
1 Wall of Bone
1 Wall of Diffusion
1 Wall of Earth
1 Wall of Putrid Flesh
1 Wall of Razors
1 Terminate
1 Eyeblight's Ending
1 Ghostly Visit
1 Hand of Death
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 12 Feb 2012, 16:54
Hey Sloth,
Last year you created a quest deck using cards that had abilities the required snow mana. The AI at that time could not use snow mana to pay for activated abilities. I remember testing it at that time.
I suspect that recent mana pool work may have included adding this in as a additional feature. If you still have that deck around it might be worth a quick test at this time.
Last year you created a quest deck using cards that had abilities the required snow mana. The AI at that time could not use snow mana to pay for activated abilities. I remember testing it at that time.
I suspect that recent mana pool work may have included adding this in as a additional feature. If you still have that deck around it might be worth a quick test at this time.

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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 12 Feb 2012, 19:56
Woot. I completely didn't suspect this, but you are right, the AI can use Snow mana now.Chris H. wrote:Hey Sloth,
Last year you created a quest deck using cards that had abilities the required snow mana. The AI at that time could not use snow mana to pay for activated abilities. I remember testing it at that time.
I suspect that recent mana pool work may have included adding this in as a additional feature. If you still have that deck around it might be worth a quick test at this time.

Thanks for letting me know Chris. And thanks to the one who implemented this (ArsenalNut?).
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 12 Feb 2012, 20:00
Oh, some of those cards may have SVar:RemAIDeck:True and this would be a good time to remove this if there is no AI issue concerning the ab itself.
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 12 Feb 2012, 20:03
`Sloth wrote:And thanks to the one who implemented this (ArsenalNut?).
I found this link so it looks like we have ArsenalNut to thank.

New "Produce$ Any" feature for AbilityMana
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ArsenalNut wrote:Here's what I have added and fixed
6) fixed AI issues with snow mana
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 12 Feb 2012, 20:17
I finally found your snow deck at message:
Re: Decks for the AI
Re: Decks for the AI
Sloth wrote:If some of the decks are too hard or too unfun, just tone them down. I don't mind anyone fiddling with my creations.
For a change, I made an easy deck based on snow permanents (sadly the only real synergy the AI is using is Skred)
Easy:3 Snow-Covered Forest
4 Snow-Covered Swamp
2 Snow-Covered Plains
1 Snow-Covered Mountain
4 Highland Weald
4 Tresserhorn Sinks
4 Arctic Flats
4 Skred
1 Terminate
4 Boreal Druid
4 Rimebound Dead
1 Squall Drifter
4 Boreal Centaur
4 Phyrexian Ironfoot
4 Chilling Shade
1 Frostweb Spider
1 Goblin Rimerunner
1 Centaur Omenreader
4 Boreal Griffin
4 Phyrexian Snowcrusher
1 Adarkar Valkyrie
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 13 Feb 2012, 03:08
I spent some time today trying to create another snow mana deck, probably tier 1. I am not sure if all of the card abs can be used by the AI yet. This is just an early rev 1 version.
- Snow White | Open
- [metadata]
Name=Snow White
Deck Type=Constructed
[main]
1 Adarkar Valkyrie|CSP
4 Arctic Flats|CSP
2 Balduvian Conjurer|ICE
2 Balduvian Frostwaker|CSP
2 Boreal Centaur|CSP
2 Boreal Druid|CSP
3 Boreal Griffin|CSP
4 Boreal Shelf|CSP
1 Centaur Omenreader|FUT
3 Diamond Faerie|CSP
1 Frostweb Spider|CSP
4 Gelid Shackles|CSP
1 Heidar, Rimewind Master|CSP
3 Into the North|CSP
2 Ohran Viper|CSP
2 Phyrexian Ironfoot|CSP
2 Phyrexian Snowcrusher|CSP
1 Rimewind Cryomancer|CSP
1 Scrying Sheets|CSP
9 Snow-Covered Forest|ICE
5 Snow-Covered Island|CSP
1 Snow-Covered Plains|CSP
2 Squall Drifter|CSP
2 Woolly Mammoths|ICE
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 13 Feb 2012, 07:28
The abilities of the following cards can't be used effectively by the AI: Adarkar Valkyrie, Balduvian Conjurer, Balduvian Frostwaker and Gelid Shackles.Chris H. wrote:I spent some time today trying to create another snow mana deck, probably tier 1. I am not sure if all of the card abs can be used by the AI yet. This is just an early rev 1 version.
- Snow White | Open
- [metadata]
Name=Snow White
Deck Type=Constructed
[main]
1 Adarkar Valkyrie|CSP
4 Arctic Flats|CSP
2 Balduvian Conjurer|ICE
2 Balduvian Frostwaker|CSP
2 Boreal Centaur|CSP
2 Boreal Druid|CSP
3 Boreal Griffin|CSP
4 Boreal Shelf|CSP
1 Centaur Omenreader|FUT
3 Diamond Faerie|CSP
1 Frostweb Spider|CSP
4 Gelid Shackles|CSP
1 Heidar, Rimewind Master|CSP
3 Into the North|CSP
2 Ohran Viper|CSP
2 Phyrexian Ironfoot|CSP
2 Phyrexian Snowcrusher|CSP
1 Rimewind Cryomancer|CSP
1 Scrying Sheets|CSP
9 Snow-Covered Forest|ICE
5 Snow-Covered Island|CSP
1 Snow-Covered Plains|CSP
2 Squall Drifter|CSP
2 Woolly Mammoths|ICE
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Rimewind Cryomancer is quite a gamble, the AI will try to counter anything, but that should be ok.
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 13 Feb 2012, 20:44
`Sloth wrote:The abilities of the following cards can't be used effectively by the AI: Adarkar Valkyrie, Balduvian Conjurer, Balduvian Frostwaker and Gelid Shackles.
Rimewind Cryomancer is quite a gamble, the AI will try to counter anything, but that should be ok.
I replaced the Adarkar Valkyrie, Balduvian Conjurer, Balduvian Frostwaker.
I kept the Gelid Shackles and the Rimewind Cryomancer as this is a tier 1 deck. At some point in the future the AI should be able to handle the Gelid Shackles in a more intelligent fashion. During testing I saw the AI activate the ab during both players turns.
- Snow White 1: 2nd revision | Open
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[metadata]
Name=Snow White 1
Title=Snow White
Difficulty=easy
Description=WUG Snow deck with Diamond Faerie, Gelid Shackles and Into the North
Icon=Snow White.jpg
Deck Type=Constructed
[main]
4 Arctic Flats|CSP
3 Boreal Centaur|CSP
2 Boreal Druid|CSP
3 Boreal Griffin|CSP
4 Boreal Shelf|CSP
2 Centaur Omenreader|FUT
3 Diamond Faerie|CSP
2 Frostweb Spider|CSP
3 Gelid Shackles|CSP
1 Heidar, Rimewind Master|CSP
4 Into the North|CSP
3 Ohran Viper|CSP
2 Phyrexian Ironfoot|CSP
3 Phyrexian Snowcrusher|CSP
1 Rimewind Cryomancer|CSP
1 Scrying Sheets|CSP
9 Snow-Covered Forest|ICE
5 Snow-Covered Island|CSP
1 Snow-Covered Plains|CSP
2 Squall Drifter|CSP
2 Woolly Mammoths|ICE
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 13 Feb 2012, 21:54
I will take care of Gelid Shackles. Nice avatar by the way.Chris H. wrote:I replaced the Adarkar Valkyrie, Balduvian Conjurer, Balduvian Frostwaker.
I kept the Gelid Shackles and the Rimewind Cryomancer as this is a tier 1 deck. At some point in the future the AI should be able to handle the Gelid Shackles in a more intelligent fashion. During testing I saw the AI activate the ab during both players turns.
- Snow White 1: 2nd revision | Open
- [duel]
[metadata]
Name=Snow White 1
Title=Snow White
Difficulty=easy
Description=WUG Snow deck with Diamond Faerie, Gelid Shackles and Into the North
Icon=Snow White.jpg
Deck Type=Constructed
[main]
4 Arctic Flats|CSP
3 Boreal Centaur|CSP
2 Boreal Druid|CSP
3 Boreal Griffin|CSP
4 Boreal Shelf|CSP
2 Centaur Omenreader|FUT
3 Diamond Faerie|CSP
2 Frostweb Spider|CSP
3 Gelid Shackles|CSP
1 Heidar, Rimewind Master|CSP
4 Into the North|CSP
3 Ohran Viper|CSP
2 Phyrexian Ironfoot|CSP
3 Phyrexian Snowcrusher|CSP
1 Rimewind Cryomancer|CSP
1 Scrying Sheets|CSP
9 Snow-Covered Forest|ICE
5 Snow-Covered Island|CSP
1 Snow-Covered Plains|CSP
2 Squall Drifter|CSP
2 Woolly Mammoths|ICE
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Re: New quest decks
by moomarc » 14 Feb 2012, 05:55
I've uploaded the avatar and updated the download list. 

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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 14 Feb 2012, 15:10
I see that the new Hulk deck needs an Avatar:
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 14 Feb 2012, 16:03
There should be avatars for Owlman, Raven and Ras Al Ghul in the collection of Corwin here: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4458#p57949
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 15 Feb 2012, 00:53
`Sloth wrote:There should be avatars for Owlman, Raven and Ras Al Ghul in the collection of Corwin here: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4458#p57949
I have an archive with four missing avatars for Marc to add to the project.
Joker.jpg
Owlman.jpg
Raven.jpg
Ras AL Ghul.jpg
And a thank you to Corwin for providing this pool of avatars.

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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 15 Feb 2012, 03:01
I have play tested the Snow White 1 deck today and decided that 29 was too many creatures for a tier 1 deck so I replaced 4 of the creatures with weaker spells.
I also reduced the number of Diamond Faerie from three to two.
The deck now looks like this:
I also reduced the number of Diamond Faerie from three to two.
The deck now looks like this:
- Snow White 1 Rev 3 | Open
- [duel]
[metadata]
Name=Snow White 1
Title=Snow White
Difficulty=easy
Description=WUG Snow deck with Diamond Faerie, Gelid Shackles and Into the North
Icon=Snow White.jpg
Deck Type=Constructed
[main]
4 Arctic Flats|CSP
2 Boreal Centaur|CSP
2 Boreal Druid|CSP
3 Boreal Griffin|CSP
4 Boreal Shelf|CSP
2 Centaur Omenreader|FUT
2 Diamond Faerie|CSP
1 Dreams of the Dead|ICE
2 Frostweb Spider|CSP
3 Gelid Shackles|CSP
1 Heidar, Rimewind Master|CSP
4 Into the North|CSP
2 Ohran Viper|CSP
2 Phyrexian Ironfoot|CSP
3 Phyrexian Snowcrusher|CSP
1 Rimewind Cryomancer|CSP
1 Scrying Sheets|CSP
1 Snow Devil|ICE
9 Snow-Covered Forest|ICE
5 Snow-Covered Island|CSP
1 Snow-Covered Plains|CSP
1 Squall Drifter|CSP
1 Updraft|ICE
1 Warning|ICE
2 Woolly Mammoths|ICE
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